Saturday, August 12, 2017

Saucony Ride 10 Review

   We have another review today from the great Dr. Nathaniel S Kollias DVM, MPH.  Dr. Kollias was kind enough to provide a review on the Saucony Ride 10.  Read on for more!
I’ll be honest, I haven’t fully run in any Saucony shoes since the Kinvara v3.  Every time I have tried one of their shoes the last couple of years, I have consistently had problems with the fit and ride.  I was hesitant to try out the Ride 10, but due to the positive initial reviews I figured I would give them a go. So read on and enjoy!
Upper and Fit
This honestly has been my biggest gripe with Saucony’s running shoes; their awful last shape and strange uppers.  What I am referring to is that most of their shoes seem to have a very pointy toe and wide heel to midfoot area.  In my opinion, this seems completely backwards to me. I know of no human that has a wide heel and pointy forefoot.  I tried on the Ride 9 in a local running store and the fit was….you guessed it: wide in the heel, pointy in the forefoot, and sloppy in the midfoot. In the Ride 10, this is not the case (sigh of relief!).  The heel is secure, the toe box has a nice anatomical taper to the forefoot, and the midfoot is nice and snug.  This improved upper is further enhanced by a plush interior and soft feeling underfoot (Thanks to the full length EVERUN® topsole – more about that in the sole and ride section). The one area I had issue with was the midfoot area with it being a bit too tight around the arch of my foot.  Upon inspecting the shoe closer; I believe it has something to do with the overlays that are located on top of the midfoot.  Despite this minor issue, the shoe is true to size in length/volume and has a snug, but accommodating midfoot/heel fit (sorry to those bizarre footed people with pointed forefeet).


Narrower heel with plush materials contribute to a more secure fit.  Also, good breathability from the engineered mesh upper. The volume of this shoe gives it range for mid to wide feet widths.
Sole and Ride
Saucony continues to utilize an EVA based material for the midsole, which is supplemented with a full length EVERUN® topsole.  The type of EVA is their new premium PWRFoam.  Saucony claims it is livelier with more durability and maintains its integrity during a run.  I agree with Saucony on this aspect of the foam.  This midsole material feels like it has a little more giddy-up to it and doesn’t deaden out or feel mushy like the SSL EVA foam, which is utilized in the Kinvara and other Saucony shoes.  The fact that this foam has a higher durometer also lends to it feeling a lot more stable underfoot and allows one to have a smoother heel to toe transition. Despite the higher durometer, the Saucony Ride 10 is still decently flexible thanks to deep flex grooves in the sole.
One can appreciate the decent amount of flex at the front of the shoe. Full length PWRfoam® is visible here in the midsole and contributes to a better riding shoe.
One thing that I have found during runs is that my gait is altered by the wider base in the forefoot.  It feels like an overcorrection of my forefoot during my landing and transition to toeing off (Editor's Note: See my post on Sole Flare HERE for a better understanding of what is happening to Nathaniel.).  Even with this awkward sensation upfront, the PWRfoam® is a welcome change to this shoe and I hope Saucony utilizes it more.  Wait, what about the EVERUN?!?!  Yes, yes, yes, just like Adidas, Saucony has jumped on the TPU or Boost material bandwagon and seems to be injecting this DNA into all their new shoes. The company only utilizes a top layer of this TPU material right below the sock liner instead of giant globs of it seen in Adidas shoes.  I was a bit skeptical as first, but the material does add a little pep to you step.  I appreciate this sensation most notably during long runs when I hit mile 10-11.  I think it must do with decompression of the sock liner and I am tempted to experiment by taking the liner out during a run.  
Another point I’d like to make about the midsole is the shape of the heel.  The heel has a nice bevel that follows closely to the curvature of the calcaneus.  I wish more shoes would do this, instead of using extreme bias (either lateral or medial heel).  This shape of the heel with the wider forefoot gives the shoe a stable ride, and almost makes it feel like a guidance shoe.
Little bias in the back half of the shoe.  Moderately stiff heel counter, but well-padded to prevent Achilles irritation.
The outsole rubber is extremely resilient and I expect most people will average around 400 miles on these shoes.  The grip is good on wet roads (thanks to the pattern of the tread) but that does not hamper the flexibility in the forefoot as there are nice deep flex grooves.  I prefer shoes with greater stiffness in the frontal plane (side to side), but those who like flexible shoes won’t be disappointed.
Good outsole coverage and deep flex grooves.  Also, you can appreciate the medial and lateral flare of the front half of the shoe contributing to a more stable forefoot – good if you need more stability up front.
Overall when I compare this shoe to others I have run in, my response is, “meh.”  It’s not a bad meh, just meh.  It has the ride of a solid reliable trainer: protective, decent ride, looks like a running shoe, durable, and supportive.  I think of it like diving a Toyota Corolla.  Yeah, it’s not the coolest car or most fun to drive, but it is a reliable car that will get you a great deal of mileage!
Room for Improvement
Remove some of the overlays (midfoot area on the top) and a snugger heel is always welcomed!   Also, it would be interesting if Saucony could somehow place sections of the EVERUN® into the midsole instead of just the top layer.  I’m thinking that if this bouncy foam was held within a carriage of the PWRfoam; you could upgrade this Corolla to a Toyota 86.  A guy can dream, right?
Conclusion
If you want a dependable solid daily trainer and like subtle guidance in the midfoot to forefoot (not utilizing traditional posting), check this shoe out.  I don’t think you will be disappointed if you are in the market for a Sedan, but if you want a sports car, I’d look elsewhere.  
These opinions are my own, these were a personal purchase and I received no monetary compensation for this review. -Dr. Kolias, DVM, MPH

Editor's Note: As always, the views presented on this blog belong to myself or the selected few who contribute to these posts. My blog should not and does not serve as a replacement for seeking medical care. If you are currently injured or concerned about an injury, please see your local running physical therapist. If you are in the Los Angeles area, I am currently taking clients for running evaluations.

Currently Dr. Kollias has >100 miles on his pair of Saucony Ride 10s. We put at least 50-75 miles on trainers and 25 miles on racing flats prior to reviewing them. If you are a footwear rep looking for footwear reviews or consultations on development, we are currently looking to partner with companies to assist, discuss and promote footwear models. Partnership will not affect the honesty of our reviews. Thanks for reading!


Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT and Dr. Nathaniel Kollias, DVM, MPH

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3 comments:

  1. The everun material is not only in the topsole. There is an additional heel cutout embedded into the midsole. I don't know how you've been doing with the ride 10 but I found that this change between the heel and forefoot created a strange sensation in the kinvara where over time the forefoot began to flatten considerably and the heel felt nearly as good as it did out of the box. I personally wasn't a fan. And then the fit of the Freedom iso was just awful so I skipped on that one.

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    1. I have had a similar experience with the Kinvara and that has been why I have avoided that shoe since version 5. I do not know about Nathaniel but I was not aware there was an additional heel cut out in the midsole of the Ride 10. I know they were doing that in the Kinvara but do not see any information on that for the 10. Fairly sure they have a topsole only, but I have not cut my pair apart.

      I found the midsole of the Freedom ISO more unstable but am curious for the Liberty ISO with a little stability. The upper wasn't bad but everyone will have different experiences.

      Thanks for commenting.

      -Dr. Matthew Klein, PT, DPT

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    2. Yeah the freedom is overall not a good running shoe very unstable as you said. I don't recommend it to pretty much anyone doing serious training. And yes there is a midsole insert in the heel for every shoe that has everun. That area in the back with that decal is a call out to it. It begins thick at the very back of the heel and tapers to a point like what you see in the second photo where the shoe is being flexed. I had a cut out but I misplaced it otherwise I could send you a photo. Perhaps I'll take pictures of these kind of things as the tech is sure to be interesting to some people.

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